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An engineer to a physicist is as a competent surgeon to a drug dealer.
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Dave
2023-03-24 11:32:08 UTC
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Simple truth, these days, who can possibly disagree!
Some 40 years ago, the teaching was the engineers follow the charts and
formulas, whereas physicsts solve the problem at root.

It has been shown that rats DO NOT get addicted when in very nice living
conditions, pleny of food, playmates and mates, enough interesting
things to do, space to go etc. Physicists improve the problem at source
and don't focus on the fixup afterwards.

e.g. car crashes - road built to spec by engineer, injuries fixed by
surgeon. Physicist - makes stickier rubber and better brakes so you
don't crash in the first place, or provide a virtual meeting, so you
don't need the journey.

drug dealer - heaven in a potion or pill;
physicist- heaven with the best possible reality fabric as it is on earth.
Dave
2023-03-24 13:54:36 UTC
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Post by Dave
Simple truth, these days, who can possibly disagree!
Some 40 years ago, the teaching was the engineers follow the charts and
formulas, whereas physicsts solve the problem at root.
What problem did physicists ever solve? They have created the problems by developing and teaching wrong theories leading to wrong practices and ideas, flowering in such serials as the Big Bang Theory. They are a lazy, obtuse lot which will not learn new things that upset their cosy theories, upon which they make their living. But like politicians, the successful physicists have great social skills, and prey upon the gullibility of the public with similar institutionalisation strategies.
Their wrong theories have corrupted human nature, leading to immense suffering, which cannot but continue. To protect their precious and wrong theories, they will neglect new insights and discoveries in science. Such as the insight of tectonic plates, and my discovery of the Lorentz force having no reaction with the invention of a new design (heavy armature, low voltage) rail gun.
Engineers do not just follow charts and formulas. They create charts and formulas with their worldly experience, create global standards, publish their works unless constrained by business or political interests, and always, get the immediate job done. Physics is just one subject they must learn among many others, to realize their goal, which is to increase comforts and conveniences with higher efficiencies on one hand,
Post by Dave
It has been shown that rats DO NOT get addicted when in very nice living
conditions, pleny of food, playmates and mates, enough interesting
things to do, space to go etc. Physicists improve the problem at source
and don't focus on the fixup afterwards.
No they do not. They are a hindrance, a curse, from top to bottom.
Post by Dave
e.g. car crashes - road built to spec by engineer, injuries fixed by
surgeon. Physicist - makes stickier rubber and better brakes so you
don't crash in the first place, or provide a virtual meeting, so you
don't need the journey.
Engineers do all that, with their diligence. Physicists write mathematical garbage to maintain and promote their ridiculous theories.
In India, the best route for a MSc(Physics) is to do a M.Tech and then call oneself an engineer.
Post by Dave
drug dealer - heaven in a potion or pill;
physicist- heaven with the best possible reality fabric as it is on earth.
Physicist drugs all with the e=mcc chant, some drug that for the vapid - so many billions of them.
My grandfather had the concept of liveweight and deadweight. Saw him OK
for over 90 years. I have doubts about gravity to be resolved, after a
full and frank discussion on this newsgroup, by timing freefall drops
from various heights. Not something generally done, but should be, in
memory of Gallileo. Training as a scientist gives the tools to gather
data, assess evidence, and not just believe everything as dogma.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
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